THE EIGHT OF CUPS: The Spiral Tarot and Thoth Tarot Card Comparisons.
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THE EIGHT OF CUPS: The Spiral Tarot and Thoth Tarot Card Comparisons.

8 of Cups-Indolence:
This card represents emotional over-extension; where your giving of yourself to others and taking time for yourself is out of balance. Emotional happiness often depends on a balance of give and take. Emotional stagnation is a state of inertia brought on by over-extending oneself beyond personal limits and boundaries. Either, we ignored our limits and boundaries or just didn't know them. This card reminds us to set our boundaries and emotional limits and to honor those limits and boundaries if we are to experience emotional health.

The eight of cups suggests that we are feeling tired, depleted, and emotionally short-circuited as a result of fulfilling others needs to the brim while ignoring our own. On the Thoth Card, the symbol of the lighted holes in the sea of emotion, depict over-extended energy which results from over-giving or the random actions of over-extending oneself. This just radiates off into the atmosphere where it is wasted emotional energy.

The Spiral Tarot Eight of Cups, depicts Persephone, the Greek Goddess of Spring, returning to the underworld for the winter. The Pomegranate is sacred to the Goddess Persephone and is shown in this card as a fruiting plant, a branch of which she is holding over her shoulder. There are seven golden cups behind her (7 is a goddess number) and one golden cup before her at the entrance to the underworld. The Spiral Tarot Card suggest the need to go inward and find what is missing in ones emotional life.

The Thoth Deck 8 of Cups, is Indolence and/or The Lord of Abandoned Success. Attributed to this card is Saturn in Pisces. The Angels of the Decan: Vabaliah and Yeshivah.
Here, Hod is in Briah, the Mental World.

To reiterate, Hod is the concrete mind; However, with Saturn in Pisces the 8 of Cups, being a Water sign doesn't balance Saturn's energy well.
With Saturn in a water sign, a certain amount of  introspection, manifests as disinterest with material conditions. The effect, is discontent or a decline in interest in anything. Thus, one's tendency  is to abandon success.

The interpretation of the Eight of Cups, is based on the fact that Pisces, is calm and stagnant water, that is completely deadened by the heavy influences of Saturn.

We know Water, is the Element of consciousness and emotion, so what is going on within one is a deadening  of interest, a complete lack of wonder.

In the Thoth card, the lotuses of enlightenment droop,for lack of sun or rain. The Sea of mind has become little stagnant pools, in poisoned soil. All the cups are old and broken, symbolizing "an old and worn out" way of thinking.The Sun of Spirit, is a pallid yellowish light barely shinning through the leaden clouds of indigo. Mind and emotions are on autopilot and the thought process is not conducive to expanding and liberating the Life of the person. The blood in the body is moving like molasses. This person needs stimulation!
Not my favorite card, but this dullness of mind, is often necessary to warn us that it is time to evaluate our feelings.
When the 8 of Cups is thrown during a reading, the querent maybe:
  • Experiencing exhaustion, being overly tired, drain and dull emotionally.
  • In an unconscious change taking place, on a deep inner level of feeling.
  • There is a warning here to Pay attention to your self...stop and examine your perspectives, this is the end of something and the beginning of something new!
  • The emotional state of stagnation and stillnessthat could go on for 8 weeks or 8 months, depending on the querent's actions.
  • Warned to not over-extend themselves and not to just set emotional boundaries and limits but to honor them as well. This is especially so when one is deeply emotionally involved.
  •  Astrologically this card is Saturn in Pisces. Saturn suggests that we supply discipline or established structures in our life.Pisces is a representation of emotional fluidity . 
  • The combination of Saturn and Pisces, reminds us to honor our emotional fluidity but to set personal limits and boundaries that honor ourselves.
  • It is best to understand that we must not do for others, what they can do for themselves...it is not our job to heal everyone we meet as freedom of choice demands that each of us have a right to our own emotional health or disease... As these are free choices!
  • It is good to remember that we can't give what we don't have, so it is important to honor yourself and stay in your emotional balance if you are to assist others in theirs.
  • The querent is reminded that in the next 8weeks or 8 months, they either are going to experience emotional over-extension or will have the opportunities to set real emotional boundaries and honor them and thus relieving the emotional stagnation they are presently experiencing.
 
When I was studying Qabalistic Magic, my Mentor said something very startling to a young neophyte who feared the evil of his own emotional confusion. After a period of trying and trying, without any appreciable success in achieving a particularly difficult Qabalistic ritual, I begged with tears flowing down my face for him to show me how to achieve success. After a horrid  extended period of  my sniveling and begging, He held up his hand and said," If you wish to speak to me you must stand for I'll not support your weakness." Stunned, I walked away feeling emotional depleted to the point of exhaustion and abruptly went to sleep. Upon awakening the light went on, and I proceeded to approach the Great Ritual with Greatness in my heart---and succeeded. Therefore this card  of emotional over extension reminds us to honor the inner strength in all of us and not do for others what they must realize for themselves------It's okay not to cure everyone. Do for others not what they allow you to do but what doesn't overstep your personal boundaries of honoring the Divine in yourself and others. Everyone has the right to their own imbalance so that by experience they can learn to correct it. Wisdom is everyone's right to learn, and comes from making your own mistakes and then correcting them yourself.

The Eight of Cups implies that emotional over-extension helps no one, it only magnifies the error.  It pays to,"Above all things, know thyself"! 

Thank you for your interest, support and comments. May you live long and prosper.

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