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Tarot Card Comparisons: The Thoth Tarot- 8 of Disks & The Babylonian Tarot- 8 of Disks-Skill

The Tarot of EliThe Thoth 8 of Disks-Prudence:
The symbol of the Sun is on the top of the Thoth 8 of Disks, because it is in the sign of Virgo which belongs to the Decan and the number 8 which is Hod (splendor) that represents Mercury. The Sun in Virgo, places Mercury in its highest spiritual aspect; signifying a loving intelligence applied to material matters; especially those of the Horticulturist, the artificer and the engineer.

The interest of the 8 of Disks, is the interest of the people as applied to labor, agriculture, and creative expression. It is illustrated as the geomantic figure Populus and the disks may represent flowers or fruits of a great tree solidly rooted in fertile land.
The essence of Virgo is the secret withdrawing of  Energy into the fallow earth. Moreover, Populus is the Moon retiring  from manifestation to her conjunction with the Sun. The study of geomantic figures is recommended here. Do a Internet search and you will be directed to the necessary books and information. [Crowley's 777, for one.]

The Thoth Deck 8 of Disks is called PRUDENCE.  Disks are often called Pentacles or Coins, in other decks; However, since the disks represent a whirling force, Disks are an appropriate symbol, something on  which Crowley and I both agree. Disks must be stabilized by a spinning motion, a circular rotational force, in order to hit their mark. Even the atoms of rocks are spinning in a centrifugal manner, so when representing the earthly powers, the spinning of the Disk, with its internal spin best shows force and form as one presence in the crystalline light.

The Eight of Disks-Prudence, is Hod in Assiah. the material World. The Sun is in Virgo and the angels of this Decan are; Akaiah and Kehethel. 
Virgo is noted to be a very practical sign which tends to cause over concern with small details.

Because this is an eight, any gain that prudence gives is soon dispersed making Prudence no great virtue.

The message in divination, maybe that of skill, prudence, and over-carefulness about small things, at the expense of the larger. But because Hod is represented by Mercury and Mercury is exalted in Virgo, there is also predilection for intelligent loving, involving material matters such as, agriculture, artistic craftsmanship, and engineering.

The Ruler ship of the Sun in Virgo suggests birth, as well, thus the disks are arranged in the Gemantic figure Populus. These disks are then shown as flowers of a Great Tree, rooted solidly in fertile lands.

The Babylonian Tarot-8 of Disks-Skill,
chooses to concentrate on the stars.
In ancient Sumeria, the priests were noted for their acute observation of celestial bodies, which led them to author the science we call astrology today.

The cyclic movement of the constellations was therefore kept by the temple scribes and linked to the seasons. Interpreting star-omens, was a major part of Sumerian Astrology, therefore the constellations were named after various deities, which resulted in also assigning different qualities to the constellations.
Upon noticing that one area of the sky through which the, planets, sun and the moon, the star-gazers of Babylon also discovered that this belt or circle of sky, included nineteen separate constellations.  These 19 were used to distinguish 12 different segments of the belt/circle while also noting that the lunar cycle was completed 12 times a year.
The Mesopotamian Astrologers of 600-500 B.C.E., reduced the zodiacal constellations to 12, forming the first 12 sign zodiac.

Since the ancient astrologers saw the stars as an embodiment of the gods, they saw the movements in the night sky as expressed divine law which they believed, governed the universe.
By observing the movements of the stars, ancient astrologers learned to predict their affect on human beings. In fact, the earliest known personal horoscope, using the zodiac as the map of the heavens at the time of the person's birth dates to 410 B.C.E.

The Babylonian Tarot card, depicts two skilled Babylonian priests, one with telescope and one as temple scribe, studying the night sky.  Above them are 8 disks, 4 with the rosette image of the stars and 4 adorned with the sun disk. The cuneiform symbol for the number 8 is shown above the priestly star gazers.

When the 8 of Disks is thrown during a reading, the querent:
  • Is in a moment of creative birth of 8 weeks or 8 months, requiring the practice of physical caution, carefulness, and prudence. 
  • A type of physical wisdom radiating from a inner place of balance and integration.
  • Making sure that all the bases are covered; every "t" crossed and and every "i" dotted.
  • Making intelligent choices so that the material world more closely conforms with one's needs. 
  • The possibility of turning a talent or skill into a profession.
  • Skill in work with energy and forms, such as fingers working on a manipulative substance.
  • Within 8 weeks or 8 months, or in the past 8 weeks or 8 months, the querent has used, skill, prudence, and cunning in their labor.
  •  There is an implication here of  being over-careful in small things at the expense of great which could mean gain of money in small sums.
  • Also, industrious cultivation of land is indicated .

  • However, there is a deeper spiritual meaning as well, for Prudence is part of a Master's Journey, the Swift solar Messenger Mercury, linked with Virgo and the Sun, is again "loving intelligence applied to material matters." .
  •  Mastery of Physical, Spiritual, and Mental union is implied here, and as many of us know, the spiritual undercurrent of a  Master's journey is in carefully planted steps that often has been referred to as Impeccability... where each moment is to be experienced completely.

  • meanness, avarice, hoarding and lack in enterprise are indicated.
Again, the accompanying cards will inform the reader in which direction the 8 of Disks is pointing.

There is also an deeply spiritual aspect peculiar to the figure 8; it is O, the symbol of "without end" twisted into what looks to be two separate zeros joined at the cross roads; an intercourse, if you will.

This is known as the symbol for Infinity and/or the Magi symbol of the Lemnistrate ( Latin: lemniscus-meaning"ribbon") which is shown as the Figure 8 laying on its side. To the

Tibetan Tantric this is the symbol of Yab Yum which translates to "Goddess God face to face".  What is known to the Magus of Qabalah, is that the figure 8 is how the One became male/electric/force and female/magnetic/form who together form the Divine Creative. Therefore, when one energy twisting upon itself, seeking to "see itself", the concept of male and female i.e., the electromagnetic spectrum was created. It  also could simply be said that Electric male force and Magnetic Female Force came from the Divine's introspection of "I AM"...which implies existence.

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2 Comments to Tarot Card Comparisons: The Thoth Tarot- 8 of Disks & The Babylonian Tarot- 8 of Disks-Skill:

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Dbr on Monday, July 06, 2015 8:14 PM
24 hours ago. (8:00 pm). We were experiencing the figure 8.
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Eli on Tuesday, July 07, 2015 6:30 AM
That is so. May you live long and prosper.

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