Tarot Card Comparisons: The Thoth Tarot of the Hermetic Qabalah: 5 of Cups-Disappointment & The Jungian Tarot- 5 of Cups: Troubles
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Tarot Card Comparisons: The Thoth Tarot of the Hermetic Qabalah: 5 of Cups-Disappointment & The Jungian Tarot- 5 of Cups: Troubles

The Tarot of EliThe Thoth 5 of Cups-Disappointment:

Being a number 5, this card is ruled by Geburah, a fiery Sephiroth of Severity, who is now in a Water Suit: Cups. There is a natural antipathy here, as fiery heat causes a natural disturbance in water when it is at ease. What is even more disturbing is the fact that this card is also attributed to Mars in Scorpio. Scorpio is in its worst aspect in Mars, a lowly scorpion on the lowest plane of Geburah, which  in this case, is the putrefying aspect of water. 
However, the powerful masculine aspect of Mars, slows down the putrefaction so that it is internal and not external, frustrating the anticipated pleasure that is emotionally sot.

The symbol of all this disturbance, is the lotus blooms being dried out by a hot wind, over a dead sea and the pentagram inverted, showing material trump over spirit. Mars is too hot for this card's natural watery peace and balance.  What was thought to bring pleasure, doss not, and the person is disturbed.
The Thoth-FIVE OF CUPS: Disappointment.
This card represents emotional disappointment caused by a loss of that which is loved (symbolized by the once full cups that are now empty).

Astrologically this is Mars in Scorpio which produces an extremely emotional effect. The Water sign Scorpio is totally disconsolate with the fiery nature of Mars causing a loss of pleasure. In other words, the placid nature of pleasure is disturbed by the super abundant energy of Mars.

To a Qabalalist, the 5 of cups is  the influence of Geburah (Severity) in Briah (Mental world) where sever energy is needed to establish a growth movement that the placid nature of pleasure has interfered with. Life being  about force and form, and the fact that if energy stays in form to long, it becomes stagnant (stasis), severe measures are often needed to get energy moving again.

  1. The 5 of Cups card is about loss of love and like all Tarot cards, is subjective to the intuition of a open reader. There are some cases where this card can even mean the loss of a loved one through the process of death. But this depends on the surrounding cards supporting this observation. 
  2. This card may say,"sorrow", but it also shows acceptance which begins the process of recovery (the Growing Leaves of the Lotus above the cups). Hence this may be a card of loss, but it is also about inheritance, patrimony, transmission, but not corresponding to expectations.  
The truth be told, most of our emotional loss is from assumptions and expectations not being met by others. That is why relationships are best enjoyed on a daily basis rather than founded on a future expectation. Being that we are the creators of moments, and call them Life Motions, it only makes good sense to give each moment of a relationship a joyous presence without waiting for a goal to be fulfilled. 

As Psyche's we are Mental-Life, who "make alive"; alive is but a movement of moments and the future is always trans-formative. Therefore for a full expression of "being alive", Live within your heart and love the now! We will often find that loving relationships are also moments of movement and that what looks like loss is a constant mechanism of change and growth.  That being said, this card is not as negative as it sounds for it does promise a return to pleasure in a future moment--5 weeks or 5 months, where love will be expressed freely again. Therefore the Thoth 5 of Cups-Disappointment reminds us to love being yourself and enjoying moments as expressions of that love, will greatly reduce the influence of severity in your life! Hence,
not a totally devastating card, but disappointing none the less, as the Spirit points out to us that dependency on other persons, places, or events to make us happy, breeds disappointment. As an Immortal Being (spirit) the Divine Creative's happiness of being Self built us to be Us and that happiness resides in our "hearts". Therefore, we don't need to seek happiness any more than a fish swimming in the ocean needs to seek water.

The Jungian Tarot-5 of Cups- Troubles, represents the myriad of troubles that can come from the unconscious mind as fulfillment of desire for negative experience. This means the data being used emotionally by the consciousness, keeps ordering up sickness, loss, lies, slander etc. Here is also the 5 of cups is pointing to the philosophical principle of self-determination, the postulate is that the experience of each individual is a matter of personal choice on some essential level, maybe even a karmic determination of the soul. Due to the mundane lack of communication between the Unconscious and consciousness, the mechanisms of such choices may not be evident to the waking consciousness. 

By remembering that Severity is a corrective, we may find that by "going inside" will provide us with the reason for the troubles we are experiencing. Again, meditation or skrying will aid us in our determination to change.
Hence,the Jungian 5 of Cups represents serious difficulties, entirely of one's own making. The martial energy behind all these troubles is shown by the flames at the base of the cups, as they reside on the ocean of unconsciousness.


Being emotionally disturbing, the Five of Cups tells the reader that the querent is experiencing:

  •  Disappointment in love and marriage.  
  • Unkindness from friends, whether the querent deserves it or not, as shown by accompanying cards. 
  • The end of pleasure, sorrow and the loss of things from which pleasure is expected. 
  • Sadness, deceit, treachery, ill-will, detraction and ill requited charity and kindness. 
  • There will be or is trouble from unexpected sources.


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