Tarot Card Comparisons: The Qabalistic Thoth Tarot- 7 of Cups; Debauch & The Jungian Tarot- 7 of Cups-Obstacles
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Tarot Card Comparisons: The Qabalistic Thoth Tarot- 7 of Cups; Debauch & The Jungian Tarot- 7 of Cups-Obstacles

The Tarot of EliThe Thoth 7 of Cups-Debauch:

 represents emotional over extension where depression is causing us to over-indulge in certain habits to avoid pain. This card indicates that imagination is running away with itself and we have a problem with facing reality. There is suggested here that there is a tendency for us to emotionally wallow in negative emotions of the past rather than changing our moods to live in the now of reality. Overindulgence  in food, drink, drugs, smoking, gambling, sexual antics, even shopping ...all from a tendency to feel sorry for ourselves. In other words, the seven of cups represents a self destructive way of coping with depression, or uncomfortable issues that one doesn't want to face by indulging in distracting patterns of excessive behavior.

The astrological symbol of this card is Venus in Scorpio; Venus represents love and beauty while Scorpio represents transformation and deep-emotional exploration. This suggests that a choice has to be made with much care and consideration during a time of run-away imagination and innumerable thoughts. This confusion is only enhanced by the abundant creativity, artistic talent and energy of the querent.

On the Qabalistic Tree of Life, the Sevens are attributed to Netzach (victory) which is very low down on the Tree of life. This is a doubling of the unbalanced nature of conscious energy as consciousness is now descended deeply into illusion while engaged in a frantic struggle with self-identity. Netzach pertains both to Venus and Earth, and the Heavenly Beauty of Venus is now debauched by Matter.  The four Sevens bring no comfort as they are the denigration of each element, exposing the utmost weakness in every case.
The Seven of Cups is called Debauch because it is one of the worst ideas one can have. Debauchery is poisoned thought processes that eventually produces madness. It represents the delusion of alcohol and drug addiction which is just a process of sinking into the mire of false pleasure. One sees life as pain, and wishes only to live in delusion. You might say that there is something suicidal in this card because of its great weakness, without even a strong planet to balance it. Venus is turned against Venus and Earth is churned into a scorpion morass.


To reiterate: NETZACH is the 7th Sephiroth, and intellectual ruler of the sevens, that is where feelings, and instincts begin. Netzach is undifferentiated and the Sephiroth of Group Mind. It is connected to it's opposite, the eighth Sephiroth- HOD-whose attributes are of the intellect, individualization, and beginnings of the individual mind.
When observing this balance we can see that Netzach is the Sephira to which the forces of Nature are attributed.

The Angels of this Sephira are called Elohim, often called the gods, because they are for the personality in incarnation and for the human race. Also, Netzach is the Sphere of Venus-Aphrodite, the Goddess of Love. Thus Netzach -Victory, implies that the Victory is in Love of Being. Remember, Hu-man means God Mind, which declares us Elohim!

The spark (fire is Spirit) of the individual mind begins in the Group Soul -Fire that is Netzach, and becomes part of a group of flames that is self-comprehending/ or self aware, while also comprehending the Whole. Therefore, it is not all surprising that the arts, music, painting, poetry and all other things of creative imagination, are attributed to the Netzach/Hod union.
The Three key symbols of Netzach, are the Rose, the Girdle and the Lamp.

The Rose is attributed to Venus and often associated with Love, as the most perfect flower.

Traditionally the Girdle is also an attribute of Venus and to learn the secret of the knot in her Girdle means to direct the Venus forces of nature, i.e. tie them up or release them at will. 

The Lamp is the bearer of Fire relating Netzach to Geburah and the powerful warring forces of Mars. Is also known on another level, as the ever-burning light of the Temple of Lower Self.

The Seven of Cups-Debauch, also known as the: Lord of Illusory Success,
because here the Moon is in Aquarius. Here is Netzach in Yetzirah, influencing the Astral World.

In the Seven of Cups, is also Venus  in Scorpio, creating a very intense and emotional presence that is often involved in deceit. There is also a tendency to wallow in emotions, and/or self-deception to the point of dissipation. This does make it a card of egocentricity and selfishness.

Thus Crowley implies a great warning in this card, his lotuses are slimy, and ugly, a perversion of the sacrament of the cup in the Six; a perversion usually brought about by over-inflating the ego or staying locked in past emotions. The consciousness is polluted and the card implies, error, illusion and illusionary success, by denying the failure of past emotions to do the job.

Many of us fail to see that our individual body and consciousness, is a holy sacrament, rather we debase ourselves, with thoughts of lack, or superiority (bad and good), when neither exist.

We are One, who is Many, many atoms, many molecules, and many cells. The Many are the Sacred Sacraments of the One. In other words, our incarnate consciousness is a formal sacred act or rite of Spirit. As we are copies of the Self Awareness of the One before us, our Soul-Psyche is also a microcosm thus made of many personalities, each new personality a composite of the past and therefore evolving new potentials. It is the rite of Spirit to become Sensually Self Aware through the sacrament of creation! I AM ME! Is a declaration of an Elohim Yod, who is self aware.....and now can discriminate self thoughts from group thoughts.

Thoughts, are the "First Matter", awareness of "First Matter" manipulation, i.e. Emotions, makes us Supreme in our creations! By untying the "not" of thoughts that have been installed by social pleasure/pain training, we become masters of Existence---the I AM ME, rather than the polluted thoughts of a "I Wanna-Be Me" which lead only to debauch. A personal consciousness who is all tied up in self absorbed pain-creation becomes a swamp of past emotion.  To believe "we are not", really just states that we are creating ourselves as a "Lack" or a hole in time, an "I Ain't" rather than an "I AM".  We are perverted by denying our own immortal sacredness with the 2 dimensional thinking of the good/bad survival mind that fears its mortality. 

The Jungian Tarot-7 of Cups: Obstacles, represents obstacles related to love and money. The blocking of such areas can be very stressful even though subtle and often involving both parents. There can be family strife and even a serious clash over values where the parents put controls on finances or over an impending relationship. However, this card isn't all negative as father and mother may be a source of necessary backing, both financial or emotional. The Seven of cups in Jungian tarot, therefore is a card of transition: goals are ultimately attained, but to overcome the obstacles requires effort, hardship and not infrequent sacrifice.

When the Seven of Cups, Debauch is thrown during a reading, it implies:
  • Emotional over extension.
  •  A state of depression where one tries to ease the pain by overindulgence. 
  • The imagination running away with itself and the resulting patterns are depleting the persons energy. 
  • This is the place of Dreams, so it could be the ability to conjure up visions, fantasies, but the vision is watery, making it difficult to see reality.  
  • There is a implication of true talent and insight, but tending towards fantasy, illusion and unrealistic attitudes.
  • Transition is shown by the number 7, which represents the Charioteer, that is the principle of change and movement. In this case the number 7  indicates an inner spiritual/emotional support to assist you in your movement through depression and debauch patterns. 
  • This card is about motion-emotion in fact, and it shows emotion be expressed in negative ways, rather than facing our feelings and solving them in positive non victim ways. 
  • The 7 of cups, suggest a willingness to change and move on but some confusion on how to go about it without undue pain. 
  • You may also be experiencing negative emotions from the past; 7 years ago or when you were 7, during some relationship crisis or family crisis. 
  • This card suggests that you may want to move on and that you are no longer willing to carry the emotional burdens of the past family debauch or indulgent patterns of the past. 
  • The 7 of cups card  also indicates that you may no longer tolerate the debauch patterns of others in your life or the indulgent dynamics of the Scorpio people in your life (October 21 to November 21).

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