Tarot Card Comparisons: The Qabalistic Thoth Tarot- 9 of Disks: Gain & The Jungian Tarot- 9 of Pentacles: Selfishness
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Tarot Card Comparisons: The Qabalistic Thoth Tarot- 9 of Disks: Gain & The Jungian Tarot- 9 of Pentacles: Selfishness

The Tarot of EliIn the Hermetic Qabalah of the Thoth Tarot, the number 9, not only represents completion but also the establishment of balanced and fulfilled Force.
Here, Venus is in Virgo. The often cold earthly and indifferent nature of Virgo may be described as the very opposite to Venus. In Virgo, Venus is in her fall, so Venus never fully develops in this sign. However, the indifference and aplomb thus formed, shows good luck in material affairs, favor and even popularity; all without deep emotional commitment.

The mingling of good luck and good management is shown in the arrangement of the the Disks. This managed arrangement is shown as an equilateral triangle of three, pinnacle upward, together and surrounded by a ring with six larger Disks in the form of a hexagon. All of which signifies the multiplication of the Original Vibration (the Word) and/ or Logos known as Kether in the Hermetic Qabalah. The Multiplication is always done in Threes; Father, Mother, Child, Maid, Mother, Crone, and Father, Son, and Whole Spirit, to name a few. The three central Disks form this magical pattern of fulfillment. 


As it descend into material crystallization, the original whirling  energy or spiral energy, gradually exhausts itself as forward motion, which is shown by the other six disks taking the form of coins. The marking on these coins are the magical images of the planets, still spinning, but in place rather than through dimensions. The degrading of the original energy by multiplication, does tend to slow it down and complicate things, thus the human body is a very slow vibratory version of the Original Self.

As a Spiral Energy Self, we are depicted as the Qabalistic Tree of Life, the whole image of Ten Sephiroth, being the Original Human, Adam Kadmon, who when multiplied into many states of energy conscious, and/or diversities of the One pattern, becomes most complicated indeed! Each of us is a complete Tree of Life multiplied by the Cubed number 3.  So it is okay that you are complicated. Just getting the complications all in complimentary patterns, working together on all planes of energy consciousness,( which is called wholeness and/ or Holy Spirit) seems impossible. Yet this cooperation can be achieved by one Sephirotic realization at a time. Baby steps, are motion and motion, no matter how small, is sacrosanct to Life.

Therefore the 9 of Disks, represents what assists us in knowing that success in the material world is not the "end all" of security. Rather, knowing thyself is the True Security; a strong foundation from which to create all good fortune. When each of us completes the realization of the Self, that is, "above all things, know thyself", even death is known as good fortune! This understanding of  " completion and renewal", i.e. death, may take some contemplation by the fearlessly diligent student but until one does, the lowly animal - survival mind shall always rule the body and thus breaking the pattern of cooperation that manifests Love, and wealth as the true state of the Divine Collective Mind.

In the Tarot of the Hermetic Qabalah, Nines are attributed to Yesod (Foundation) on the Tree of Life, thus  after the incursion into double misfortune (7&8's), the current of energy is back on the middle pillar.  Yesod, the purple Sephira, is the Sephirothic-seat of the great crystallization of energy, much like the Etheric Body of the Human Aura and is the "fabric that matter is woven from".  Although this "weaving" takes place far down the Tree, getting very little vibratory help from the unbalanced spheres Hod and Netzach. However, Yesod is still directly connected to Tiphareth; Tiphareth being the highest state of balance possible for an individual Human psyche that is operating physical matter. Therefore, the nines give the full most elemental impact of the idea of Force; The "idea" because Yesod is still in the Formative World of Yetzirah.
Zoroaster--- [ "The number 9 is sacred, and attains the summit of perfection."]
*Rome and Egypt, also had Nine Major Deities.

The cold mercurial nature of  Virgo, may be seen as the opposite of Venus, the planetary ruler of this card which is now in her fall and never develops her "beauty" properly.  Thus the Nine of Disks, is too dense and dull to care; it just counts its winnings, feeling all is won and without thoughts of future. Purring with satisfaction, it rubs its hands and sits at ease. Hence, there is a satisfied feeling of "everything is for the best in the best of all possible worlds".  Change isn't even considered here, and this folly will present itself in the Tens. But for now, all is well in the financial and material world, "who gives a damn about anything else"!  But the balance seen here is as undeveloped as Venus is in this card, just like elementary finances inflation /change is unforeseen, and sitting upon "your laurels" too long just crushes &  putrefies the greenery. The warning in this card is simply, enjoy the moment, but re-invest, by using your imagination, or lose what you have gained in the heaviness of the material world.

 The descent into matter tends to complicate the image, as all weaving (Wyrding) originating from the High Priestess on down, tends to make it hard to find the original thread (the first vibration) that began the tapestry. FYI ---the Thoth Deck Disks are called Pentacles or Coins on most other decks.

The Thoth 9 of Disks reminds the Qabalist that gain is all about perspective. If we look at ourselves from the lofty perch of the Soul (Tiphareth-Beauty) all is easily seen, understood and adjusted, in the daily life of the physical person that the Soul's Vibrations produce; However, if we are looking up from the Earthly presence towards our incomprehensible Soul....we tend to only see what we are trained to see. The necessary perspective changes to achieve this Psyche enlightenment of "looking downward" (from inward to outward) at ourselves, is why the adept studies the Tree of Life and achieves personal initiation on each state of energy conscious called Sephiroth;  To Know Thyself requires us to look beyond ourselves which is a many step perspective change (9 steps, as Kether is Unknowable, except through its self-images)!

The Jungian Tarot-9 of Pentacles: Selfishness, represents an attitude or perspective that can be considered good or bad. Here is represented a very basic and mundane focus on one getting what they want, without considering the effects on others.
It could be considered good, because the person is a paragon of their work, such as a "great actor", who is rightly deserving of the attention and reward they are getting. It could also be considered the negative characteristics of egomania that are very destructive as the "end justifies the means".
In extreme this card may represent the sociopath, for whom there is no right or wrong.
Therefore, this card represents a meaning of popularity or favors granted, or it could suggest a notorious scandal bringing about personal attacks and loss of reputation.

When the Thoth 9 of Disks or 9 of Pentacles, is thrown during a reading, it implies:
  • That in 9 weeks or 9 months the querent has experienced or will experience an inheritance, and/or much increase in money.
  • 9's are the number of completeness, so complete realization of material gain is suggested here.
  • According to the dignity inferred by the accompanying cards, this could also be covetousness, treasuring of goods, and maybe even theft and underhanded waggery.
  • Spiritual activity is implied here also, but Disks are Earth-Material so spiritual awareness maybe gained in the spiraling of the downward flow of Force and Form, but very slowly and may be hardly noticed.
  • A complete manifestation of  material gain.
  • Success in the material world.
If ill dignified by the accompanying cards, certain character flaws make their appearance such as:
  • Covetousness, treasuring of goods, and there may even be theft or knavery involved.

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2 Comments to Tarot Card Comparisons: The Qabalistic Thoth Tarot- 9 of Disks: Gain & The Jungian Tarot- 9 of Pentacles: Selfishness:

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ARF Associate ɑ on Thursday, September 01, 2016 1:55 AM
Associate ɣ , my teacher but not master or lord , had me consult the cards by revealing my card utilizing a common deck of playing cards . I already knew the following about myself : I am selfish . I do not care about the effects , positive or negative , that my selfishness forces upon local examples of homo sapiens sapiens . What I did not realize before the reading is that I am dull and dim , which my teacher , whom I consulted after the card revealing , verbally confirmed .
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Eli on Thursday, September 01, 2016 10:14 AM
Hi Dull and Dim. Yes, regular playing cards are spin offs of the Tarot. They used all the Small numbered cards- of the Tarot, keeping only one Major Arcana- The Joker/Fool card, and also kept all the Court cards. By making the Tarot "playing cards",allowed the general populace to still divine without being imprisoned and tortured by the Christians, who declared Tarot evil (cards don't live or die---therefore they can't be evil for that is live spelled backwards). Being self absorbed does build a dim and dull person. Treating everyone like you wish to be treated---creates an intelligenct and creative person. With revelation comes transformation! May you live long and prosper.

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