In the Thoth Eight of Cups-Indolence,
there is represented only the end of the Seven of Cups-Debauch. The gluttony of the Seven has succumbed to the putrefaction of the 8. Yet it must, for putrefaction proceeds purification.
is the 8th Sephira and means Splendor. Being in the Suit of Water and
with the influence of Mercury (splendor), we would expect a "shimmering,
dancing Water"; However, we have to understand the influence of Saturn
in Pisces, which rules this card. Pisces, is calm but stagnant water and
Saturn completely deadens it as if lead was added to the pool. So the Splendor here, is that of the hypochondriac: "Oh look at me, how splendid is my suffering"!
There is no sea, only pools and the fluorescence of putrefaction ( as
shown in the 7), is long gone into complete stagnation. To drink this
water (indulge in your negative emotions) is to mentally die.
The completion of the stagnation is
in the drooping lotus bosoms who lack both Sun and rain ( rain
would be applying "new emotions") and the soil is poison to them (a
sickly foundation), growing only two sickly-blooms. The cups (vessels
of thought that the emotions fill) are old and broken. The three row
arrangement of the cups (Three states of Manifested Mind), shows only
the slow filling from two central cups, that spill into the lower cups
(lowest emotions). The back ground of the card shows only "the bad
lands" of a poisoned landscape of self-identity.
This seeming over-stressing the point of Indolent behavior
should get one's attention: For whom
ever this card is about, is wallowing in self pity, making the conscious
mind (Self-Conscious) a poisoned morass of negative perspectives.
Hopefully this card is not surrounded by negative cards, or suicide is a
Therefore the Thoth card's art makes us aware of the illusion of suffering for the sense of
self-importance. This also can happen when we have a emotional shock, such as
a loved one dying, and we are quilt ridden with the thoughts of " I
should have done or acted different". Soon enough "survivors quilt"
drags us down into a morass of suffering, that becomes more important
than our health. The martyrdom of such thinking, allows only emotional
decay and everything or everyone's sympathy, just adds to the misery of the
self-absorbed splendor. My only advice is to:Get over yourself and get on with you, for death is inevitable, and even the best doctor's in the World can't stop it. It is enough to know that each one of us is Spirit, and spirit is the life and death of the body it animates.In other word's, " I Am the alpha and the omega of my self creations".
The correction to this swamp of self-misery, is as the
Buddha was quoted as saying to a beggar woman who lost her child to an
ox-cart accident at a certain cross-roads, where she sat in misery,
never leaving the place of suffering; He said, as he picked her up off
of the street," I greatly suggest that you go forth and find someone who
has not lost a loved one". In other words, he just gave her a purpose
In my soul is a past personality of such a self-absorbed one
. In the Tibetan year of 323 my great teacher, Yo
Chen, who started me on the paths of "Above all things, Know thyself", also taught me a lesson in strength, when he looked down on a
suffering 12 year old and said," If you wish to speak to me, you must
stand for I'll not kneel to your weakness".
Just standing above my
misery, became my purpose and the Soul progressed with a new discernment. So when this card is thrown, it suggests to
the querent it is time to stand up, and look above the swamp of your own
emotional quagmire, and support yourself in a motion of "tough love",
rather than seek
support of your pain.
As Stated: The Thoth Deck 8 of Cups, is Indolence and/or The Lord of Abandoned Success. Attributed to this card is Saturn in Pisces. The Angels of the Decan: Vabaliah and Yeshivah.
is in Briah
, the Mental World. To reiterate, Hod, the 8th Sephiroth,
is the concrete mind; However, with Saturn in Pisces the 8 of Cups, being a Water sign doesn't balance Saturn's energy well.
Saturn in a water sign, a certain amount of introspection, manifests
as disinterest with material conditions. The effect, is discontent or a
decline in interest in anything. Thus, one's tendency is to abandon
Again, the interpretation of the
Eight of Cups, is based on the fact
that Pisces, is calm and stagnant water, that is completely deadened by
the heavy influences of Saturn.
As students of the metaphysical, we know Water, is the Element of
consciousness, so what is going on within one is a deadening of
interest, a complete lack of wonder.
Hence, the lotuses of enlightenment
droop, for lack of sun or rain. The Sea of mind has become little
stagnant pools, in poisoned soil. All the cups are old and broken,
symbolizing "an old and worn out" way of thinking.The Sun of Spirit, is a
pallid yellowish light barely shinning through the leaden clouds of
indigo. Mind and emotions on autopilot, thought process is not conducive
to expanding and liberating the Life of the person. The blood in the
body is moving like molasses. This person needs stimulation! For to "live in the past", is an impossible illusion; life is only a moment of movement in the "now".
Not my favorite card, but this dullness of mind, is often necessary to warn us that it is time to evaluate our "splendor of feelings", for indeed, like the shine of rhinestones, they blind us to what is real.
The B.O.T.A. Tarot- 8 of Cups:
Depicts four silver-blue cups above and the reflections of them below.
The colors of blue and silver, are again water and mercury. No mention of Pisces, or Saturn or the card's meaning is present. That is because, the Builder's of the Adytum, have their own correspondence courses on these "small cards" .
It is enough to know the eight is a symbol of infinity, as well as, She-Unconscious and He-Conscious, formed from the same circle of infinity. Therefore, the Unconscious and Conscious are both in agreement here. One of the Hermetic Qabalah would know that this alone is a rational and imagination agreeing to a creation of illusion. Such is Infinity-an illusion, since in the realms of matter, there are beginnings and ends, only in the invisible One Energy, is infinity suggested, as one cannot measure an end or beginning. This card can therefore suggest, "it's okay, it won't last, for all things come to an end"; including emotions.
the 8 of Cups is thrown during a reading,
- The querent maybe
experiencing exhaustion, being overly tired, drain and dull emotionally.
- There is an unconscious change taking place, on a deep inner level of
- There is a warning here to Pay attention to your self...stop
and examine your perspectives, this is the end of something and the beginning of something new!
- The emotional state of stagnation and stillness.This could go on for 8 weeks or 8 months, depending on the querent's actions.
- The querent (or the one they queried about) will be or is experiencing, a depressive state of emotions.
- Success is abandoned,as there is a decline of interest in anything.
- Any positive things are thrown aside as soon as gained; not lasting even in the mater at hand.
- Misery and repining without a viable cause.
- A continual seeking after riches, without the emotional energy to gain them.
if there are a lot of positive cards accompanying this negative one,
there will be temporary success, but without further result.
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