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Tarot Card Comparisons: The Thoth Tarot- 8 of Swords-Interference & The Barbara Walker Tarot- 8 of Swords-Disillusion

The Tarot of EliThe Thoth-THE EIGHT OF SWORDS-Interference & The Barbara Walker Tarot- Disillusion:
 In the Hermetic Tarot this card is  also called  The Lord of Shortened Force.
The 8 of Swords is attributed to Jupiter in Gemini, and Jupiter's natural expansiveness is in detriment in Gemini, as the duality of Gemini affects Jupiter's positive energy scattering half one way and half the other.
Here, Hod is in Yetzirah, the Astral World.
The angels of the Decan are, Vemibael and Yehohel. 

Because of the desire to go first one way than the other, the shortened forces of Jupiter are scattered, erratic and unstable. This is indeed an interference when trying to focus one's consciousness on a goal. Yes it can be an intense and positive beginning, but it soon loses momentum in misdirection.
Crowley illustrates this in his 8 of Swords, as two strong and long main swords, being crossed ( as in Crossed-up) by six short swords of different designs representing scattered thoughts). The shorter swords also imply: shortened force, narrowness and restriction. There is a definite lack of persistence in intellectual matters and of contest. Jupiter's natural good fortune still attends even the weakest of efforts, yet the will is constantly thwarted by accidental interference.


Swords are the Suit of Air which is the suit of Mind, intellect, and conscious and traditionally the suit of death. The 8 of Swords, is of the 8th Sephira-Hod, which means splendor which is all about pretense. This signifies a genuine lack of persistence in matters of intellect and contest. Yet the 8 of Swords is also attributed to Jupiter in Gemini, so good fortune attends even the weakest effort; However, the Will is being constantly thwarted by accidental interference.

The Center of the Thoth Card is dominated by two downward pointing long swords. They are being crossed by six small swords , implying many small thoughts interfering with the larger issues. It is interesting to note that these small swords are peculiar to countries or cults, such as the Kris, the Kukri, the Scramasax, the Dagger, the Machete and the Yataghan; implying that outside interference, such as indoctrination, theology, and mental abuse, could be the cause of difficulties.


Since astrologically this card is Jupiter in Gemini, the expansiveness of Jupiter here is in a detrimental phase that  shortens its nature. The dual nature of Gemini, goes first one way and then another, shortening the expansiveness of Jupiter's normally positive influence.

To a Hermetic Qabalist, 8 of Swords is Hod-Splendor in Yetzirah, the formative  Astral World . Splendor, which is seen as a "egoistic showing off", a kind of ,"look how beautiful am I" . Splendor is the state of energy conscious that decorates creation with all it's beautiful colors and plumage. But in this case, the normal brief intense and positive influence of Jupiter is driven to chaotic twists and turns by the dual directions of Gemini. This Interferes with a type of order established by Jupiter, the resulting misdirection makes nothing complete.
The divinity meaning of this card is; shortened force, narrowness, restriction as in a prison bound by rules of "good and bad".

There is a desire here to expand any duality but all indications are over-analysis, doubt or confusion, interfering with a choice being made.  Because of Jupiter, good fortune attends even
these weakened efforts; However, the Will is thwarted by accidental interference proposed by Gemini. Crowley knew this to be so, and made sure that each sword in this card was of a different appearance, signifying "many choices with out decision".


Mental interference is signified here. This is a sign of an active mind, that dashes about between thoughts of right and wrong. Hence this person is unable to complete anything of significance. Projects lie about half done, confusion is rampant about what is most important and what is not.  When the Thoth card is thrown it points to the astrological aspect of Jupiter in Gemini; Jupiter being the planet of  growth and expansion and when linked with Gemini this union requires us to weight different possibilities (Gemini is  the sign of the "twins") but without certainty. In Eastern philosophy this is called the Neti-Neti mind (translates to ; Not this-Not that). This card represents the over analytical, non-trusting mind where survival thinking has become the foundation of creative thought brought on by self-doubt. This card says, "Stop! Now is the time to wait rather than act."  Yet, the 8 of Swords is not all negative, for it also signifies that the desire and possibility for resolution with in the next eight weeks or 8 months, does exist. 

As one knows, running from thought to thought not trusting your opinion of which is best or more certain of creating your survival dreams, accomplishes only creative mental interference and nothing cam be completed. Mental confidence is a state of happiness that comes from a state of I AM----not from a state of "I Am not". Therefore the 8 of Swords suggest that it is time to stop seeking and focus on your inner bliss. Declaring," I Am the happiness I am seeking". This forms a state of confidence and stops the seeking of happiness that often interferes with our focused creative motion.

" The happiness of the Divine Creative built me so it could be me." is a realization that has personally changed my life---it's time to focus on this fact as God doesn't build what God doesn't want!

The Thoth card helps us see that it is not what we do that makes us happy----it is the knowing of our inner-self that is important. Again the Tarot aids us in the spiritual axiom," Above all things, know thyself."

To reiterate: The Qabalistic Thoth- Eight of Swords: Interference and The Barbara Walker Tarot-8 of Swords-Disillusion, are both ruled by  the 8th  Sephiroth -Hod on the Qabalistic Tree of Life, which is called Splendor. Splendor signifies: lack of persistence in intellectual and matters of contest.  Hence, Splendor, is cosmetic and has little depth of character.

However, ruling this astrological Decan, is Jupiter in Gemini, thus good fortune may attended even weakened efforts. However, Gemini has its own contest, which is constantly interfering with the Will.
This constant distraction of the intellect is implied on the Thoth Tarot Card,  by the Six  crossing Swords between two major Swords, signifying too many different thoughts to consider at the same moment.

The Tarot  8 of Swords, being in the Suit of Air, depicts a mind that  blows "wherever it may". All of this contradiction displays  the mental conflict that comes form splendorous displays of intellectual thought. As is often the case, in such a shallow display, the faux intellectual must constantly babble on with gaudy words and hollow concepts that have very little mental "nutrition".

This lack of mental "nutrition" is not unusual for it is a common disease of the human brain, that prods our personalities on with a shot gun blast of thoughts of both culturally installed "good or bad", scattering our intellectual strength so that our will is too weak to go the distance. Many of us are taught, that to be ignorant or incorrect, is bad and the brain wishes to be good and well liked, so it does everything it can to impress other brains; hoping for a "pat on the back". This tends to "narrow and restrict" the mind, so that all we hear are the echoes of many thoughts rattling around in our tinny head.

It is not that such a person is "closed minded" it's just that they are "fear minded" and there  is such a cacophony of rapid fire thoughts that the person's brain is closeted in mental noise. Such mental interference often assaults the individual's moments of  mental repose; Hence, sleeping and meditation becomes a contest between will (Spirit)l and brain (self-conscious) making both sleep and meditation weak attempts.
This lack of focus, requires us to add correctional software to our brain's programming; one such correctional software package, is the study of the Gnostic Qabalah where "above all things, know thyself" is the foundation focus of the  I AM.  Rather than a cultural "thyself which is made by the acquiring of more things/degrees" which only produces impoverished thoughts based on " I believe my every thought to be true" . There is an axiom for this card, and it is ," A jack of all trades, and a master of none"... which is the modern, concept of  "Multitasking".  Focusing on one thing at a time will cure this dysfunction which may sound easy, but requires intense fearless-sensual intimacy with what you are doing.
The Barbara Walker Tarot-8 of Swords: Disillusion, implies a crisis in which conviction might suddenly show its twin face and be recognized as a destructive fanaticism based on the splendor of  righteousness. Faith is lost, and replaced by despair, inner turmoil and depression. Therefore, Barbara Walker depicts the Knight Finisterre who in his search for the passage to the sunset paradise found nothing but a lonely waste land and a cold, impassable sea. A perfect metaphor for righteous conviction showing its shallow and horrible face. "Fighting for what you believe", is just an act of superficial splendor, for what we are is each other. Everyone is yet another way to be an expression of One Mind. Many call this the seeking of the Oneness with the One Mind, seeking the Truth. Yet, Truth made us, for Truth of the One, is  made Manifest as a self-image. I'll never be the "whole truth, nothing but the Truth" for I already am. Whatever, I passionately think, I become manifest as, so as the Individual Mind, a copy of the One Mind, I also can only create self-image. I AM, manifest, so being Truth, seeking Truth, is a fish in the ocean seeking water. To Know Thyself is to know Truth.
When the Eight of Swords is thrown during a reading, the querent will or has:
  • Experienced for 8 weeks  8 months or since they were 8 years old, narrow or restrictive thought.
  • Shortened Force and petty thinking.
  • Too much force applied to small things, too much attention to detail, at expense of principal and/or more important points of thought.
  • There is a tenancy to admire wisdom, yet applies it to small and unworthy objects.
  • The querent may experience great ease in some things, counterbalanced by equal disorder in others and is often impulsive.
  • There is a fondness of  giving or receiving money, or presents promoting a generosity without a strong feeling of affection.
When ill-dignified by the accompanying cards, the above qualities produce malice, pettiness, and domineering qualities.


This card also represents:

  • Over analyzing every thought to the point of inaction reminding us to stop, slow down and refocus.
  •  In the next 8 weeks or 8 months you will either get the chance to slow down and refocus your thoughts or you will come to an understanding of your own mental interference and refocus.
  • This could also mean that you must desist your uncertain and scattered thoughts about the Gemini people in your life (May 21 to June 21) by simply waiting and not taking any decisive action concerning them.
  • Let go of fear and thoughts will become focused and future decisions will become clearer.
  • Too much interference for proper decisions at this time. 





  • Too many choices causing indecision, much like a squirrel caught trying to cross a busy four-lane highway, darting back and forth trying to figure out the right direction to go. This usually ends up as "road kill", so this card reminds us to sideline ourselves from our busy thought, and take a deep breath, center, and make a patient and insightful decision.
  • Our thoughts often trick us into believing all of our decisions are life and death serious. By panicking and racing from one thought to another we are unable to see through the dust cloud of chaos. But if we take a moment and not interfere with our own decisions by mentally racing about, we'll see that very few thoughts are life and death decisions, they are more like choices and less like discomfort.
  • The fear of not making the "right" choice, is often the interference one suffers from, causing indecision.
  • The Eight of Cups reminds us to relax, in 8 weeks or 8 months all will become clear, and the dust will settle.
  • In this case, the Rapid Rabbit looses the race to the Patient Tortoise who never loses sight of the goal and is willing to take one direction to get there.




  • That in 8 weeks or 8 months, the querent has or will have experienced narrow or restricted thought that shortens their force.
  • There will be pettiness, a mental prison, and too much force applied to small things.
  • Over attentive in detail, at the expense of principal and more important issues.

  • The above stated qualities will produce malice, pettiness, and domineering qualities, if ill dignified by surrounding cards.
  • There is patience in detail of study, great ease in some things, counterbalanced by equal disorder in others.
  • Being influenced by Gemini (The two long swords) there is always a equal and opposite balance, such as, impulsively being fond of giving or receiving money and/or presents.
  • This person will be generous, clever, acute, selfish, and without strong feelings of affection.
  • They will also admire wisdom but will apply it to small and unworthy objects. T
  • he Eight of Swords-Interference, also implies that the person has seen goals, but is approaching them, if at all, very slowly and needing to be very meticulous in doing so, because of the constant distraction of the many nagging, needling thoughts in their head.
  • The goals will be achieved in time, by patience and attention to detail, which all would be sped up by being able to focus on the import issues at hand.
  • Mental focus is recommended which can be acquired by practicing meditative yoga or the various martial arts, and/or mental meditative sciences such as Qaballah, Tantra, and Ti-Chi. Just pick one and do it!

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